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Geo-Targeting Headaches with Yahoo Search Marketing
- By Tim Rule
- Published 02/7/2008
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Tim Rule
Tim Rule specializes in Pay-Per-Click account management at StepForth Web Marketing Inc, a web marketing company founded in 1997 and based in Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. StepForth provides cutting-edge web marketing services that provide highly successful, targeted results for its clientele. Tim Rule is accredited in Google Adwords and a Yahoo Search Marketing Ambassador.
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As an accredited Yahoo Ambassador, I am accustomed to working with the Yahoo Search Marketing
PPC system (YSM). Although YSM can be an effective means of paid
advertising, its Panama system still has a ways to go and I want to
share with you several of the challenges in setting up a geo-targeted
campaign.
Opening an account with an address in the US or Canada, restricts you to advertising only in those markets. If you'd like to geo-target other areas of the globe, you have to use this site: Yahoo International Accounts
Once there, a separate account for each and every additional country you wish to advertise in will need to be created. That's an awful lot of work for someone wanting to geo-target globally. When calling YSM support to find out how to get around this, their answer was that it is impossible to integrate campaigns to be served globally. I found this to be odd, as I'd just completed a globally targeted campaign in Google Adwords for the same client.
Another hitch in geo-targeting in Panama is trying to include Canada as a target region. If you select Canada
as the market to be served to, you will only get ad service if the ads
are written in French. This is unusual, as roughly 23% of Canada's
population is French; in order to get ad service to English speaking
Canada, one needs to set up the account in the US and Canada market . Apparently, however, this odd set up can cause problems in US advertising as well, as evidenced in this RKG blog.
Given that targeting Canada allows for only ad service in French, it seems odd that Yahoo w
ould use exactly the same map
as the English service US and Canada market as there aren’t a great
many French Canadians in the US. By comparison, upon checking
Switzerland, which also has more than one official language, no similar
restrictions seem to apply. The target area was even restricted to just
Switzerland and not the bordering countries, many of which have the same languages.
Overall, Yahoo seems to be very inflexible as to where they will serve ads. It would be nice if they displayed this kind of information more prominently when setting up accounts with them. I imagine a lot of people have wasted a fair amount of time trying to work through this system.
I've mentioned these issues when speaking to Yahoo support staff, suggesting that changes of this nature would make the system more useful for advertisers. Both Google AdWords and Microsoft Adcenter allow flexible geo-targeting options, with MSN going as far as to allow an assortment of criteria to be changed at the ad group level.
Yahoo has thanked me for my input, but I question whether they are really listening. Dating back more than a year, similar complaints litter the YSM Blog and to date no known attempts have been made to improve the system.
While Yahoo has a number of good aspects behind its Panama Platform there is still much room for improvement. Here is a summary of my recommendations to Yahoo:
Opening an account with an address in the US or Canada, restricts you to advertising only in those markets. If you'd like to geo-target other areas of the globe, you have to use this site: Yahoo International Accounts
Once there, a separate account for each and every additional country you wish to advertise in will need to be created. That's an awful lot of work for someone wanting to geo-target globally. When calling YSM support to find out how to get around this, their answer was that it is impossible to integrate campaigns to be served globally. I found this to be odd, as I'd just completed a globally targeted campaign in Google Adwords for the same client.
Another hitch in geo-targeting in Panama is trying to include Canada as a target region. If you select Canada
as the market to be served to, you will only get ad service if the ads
are written in French. This is unusual, as roughly 23% of Canada's
population is French; in order to get ad service to English speaking
Canada, one needs to set up the account in the US and Canada market . Apparently, however, this odd set up can cause problems in US advertising as well, as evidenced in this RKG blog.
Given that targeting Canada allows for only ad service in French, it seems odd that Yahoo wOverall, Yahoo seems to be very inflexible as to where they will serve ads. It would be nice if they displayed this kind of information more prominently when setting up accounts with them. I imagine a lot of people have wasted a fair amount of time trying to work through this system.
I've mentioned these issues when speaking to Yahoo support staff, suggesting that changes of this nature would make the system more useful for advertisers. Both Google AdWords and Microsoft Adcenter allow flexible geo-targeting options, with MSN going as far as to allow an assortment of criteria to be changed at the ad group level.
Yahoo has thanked me for my input, but I question whether they are really listening. Dating back more than a year, similar complaints litter the YSM Blog and to date no known attempts have been made to improve the system.
While Yahoo has a number of good aspects behind its Panama Platform there is still much room for improvement. Here is a summary of my recommendations to Yahoo:
- A revamping of YSM's system should
be devised for more user friendly and efficient account creation and
management. Yahoo's current system has the effect of putting all the
setup and management workload on the advertisers.
- Country restrictions should be made clear to the advertiser at the account creation stage.
- Any
ad copy language restrictions in place for specific geographic areas
should be clearly noted by Yahoo. In cases where ads are disallowed due
to language, there should be an indication the ads will not be served.
In the case we recently experienced, there were no editorial alerts or
any other obvious indication the Canada – English campaign was not
functioning.



